Absolutley, Triceps and Shoulders together (even for the seasoned) just don’t go well fo
r me either. Alot of books/web pages do put these two (shoulder & triceps) together. Esspecially beginer routines. For me, if I do my shoulders first, my tricep exercises lack reps and weight. If I do my triceps first, my shoulder work out stinks. Back & Bi’s/Chest & Tri’s, Shoulders & Legs, work better for me.
If your just starting Heavy Weight training, or are still weak, dont worry about your arms. The basic Back/Chest/Shoulder and Leg workouts posted here, are enough. Get form and Strenghth. Through acheivment of the basics, your arms will come in, then work Bi’s & Tri’s in. Remember keep it simple…
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